So now that I beat Nightfall campaign... - Guild Wars Forums

Demichelis · Mar 30, 2011, 07:54 PM // 19:54

What would be the next best thing to do? I was thinking on getting to the Factions area so I can get the Save Yourselves! skill from the Kuzrick/Luxon factions, and not sure from there.

Nightfall was the first campaign I beat, so not sure what else to do next. :P

inscribed · Mar 30, 2011, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Take your heroes from Nightfall and use them to beat Prophecies, then head to Eye of the North, and finally the War in Kryta/ GW Beyond content. I thought Factions was the weakest of the campaigns, and didn't really offer much in meta-PVE outside of the skill you mentioned.

Aeritath · Mar 30, 2011, 08:45 PM // 20:45

I agree didn't really get anything out of factions and the story was pretty meh.

EoTN has a TON of amazing skills (Pain Inverter, Ebon Vanguard skills, etc) and lots more to offer in the way of titles and such, so I would start there if you can, especially if you have a decent amount of heroes to work with after Nightfall.

Sir Baddock · Mar 30, 2011, 08:54 PM // 20:54

This is how I grouped the various Guild Wars Titles.

PvE - Prophecies (More story driven)
Competitive PvE: Nightfall (More driven on various types of missions to keep content feeling fresh).
PvP - Factions (Expanded on PvP Elements greatly)
Advancement / Expansion on pre-existing elements - Eye of The North.

Mr Dinkleberg · Mar 30, 2011, 09:05 PM // 21:05

I'd go for factions, it has a quick storyline, and offers some great skills (like you mentioned). Also I love to do FA, but maybe that's just me. I played through factions in 5 days of less then casual gameplay. (With disco+mesway+spiritway)

majoho · Mar 30, 2011, 09:12 PM // 21:12

If you're doing it for skills you should do as you're already saying (going for luxon/kurzik).

Also story and environment wise Factions is really great (although a lot of people say it as the worst of the campaigns).

EDIT: Apparently it still packs quite a punch (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Afflicted_Soul_Explosion) although I know it was nerfed from what it originally was.

I actually did Vizunah Square the other day in HM (think it was Zaishen quest) and I didn't notice anything - ofc it could be because I don't use melee in my group other than minions.

Dramatic Exit · Mar 30, 2011, 10:09 PM // 22:09

If it helps, my wife and me started with Nightfall and after finishing:

1) went and got any Treasure we'd missed
2) worked through EotN to get the rest of the Heroes, the HoM, and some good skills, but stopped before completing it so War in Kryta didn't kick off
3) are now working through Prophecies

I did level up a Ritualist in Factions though to unlock some more skills.

*Darcy* · Mar 30, 2011, 10:37 PM // 22:37

I love Factions. I've played through it with eight characters so far and loved every minute.

inscribed · Mar 30, 2011, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Sorry but I thought the whole division between Kurzick and Luxon really hampered PvE play and created more annoyances than any real new game play. Also I absolutely hated the areas in Kaineng City. For a game with no z-axis, they really should of avoided the multi-leveled, congested areas that got introduced there. Players ended up aggroing mobs of enemies located on another floor with no nearby route to them, so your only choice was to run by or choose another path. It also made the minimap useless.

Its just my opinion, but Prophecies had a much better story, and Eye of the North had the best pure PvE gameplay released by ArenaNet so far.

Demichelis · Mar 31, 2011, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Heh, I went ahead and am going with Factions. I really hate the environment so far, the city and stuff. I just mostly want to get it out of the way so I can get another trophy on hall of monuments (think I got one for beating Nightfall, had a trophy that said Eternal Hero of Elona) and get that PvE skill.

Kojima · Mar 31, 2011, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Fractions is good actually to start as your second game. It is easy to beat and has lots of skills for you to cap and buy. I think coming from Nightfall, you may find Prophecies a little boring at first until you reach almost end game. Plus, it takes a while to start getting nice skills. However, if you finish Fractions before going into Prophecies, you may find Prophecies a bit too easy.

Prophecies has the best story and it is also true that the Kaineng City is pretty confusing the first time a player use it. But once you get the hang of it is ok.

LifeInfusion · Mar 31, 2011, 02:42 AM // 02:42

If you go to Factions bring protective spirit. The Afflicted Soul Explosions pack a punch if you're using AoEs. The Afflicted eles also use Lightning Orb.

gremlin · Mar 31, 2011, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Factions can be completed pretty quickly and on the whole I enjoyed it yes the luxon/kurzic bit became boring after a while and I just wish completing it opened up both sides cities traders etc on that character.

I would do factions next if you have any inclination to gain ritualist skills.

My preferred order of game completion is currently

Nightfall - Eye - Factions - Prophesies.

I know people rave over the prophesies storyline but sadly I find it too dated to really enjoy any more.
Game has moved on I find less and less reason to start a character there, I think it would spoil the good memories I have of the old days.

majoho · Mar 31, 2011, 09:03 AM // 09:03

^ agree, I find Prophecies rather boring.

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

If you go to Factions bring protective spirit. The Afflicted Soul Explosions pack a punch if you're using AoEs.

Actually I'm pretty sure they nerfed the damage a couple of times, it used to be a threat back in the day but now it's pretty low damage.

@Demichelis yeah the city part is not that great but if you focus on doing your main quest you can skip most of it.

syronj · Mar 31, 2011, 11:21 AM // 11:21

When you get the chance, check out the scenery on Shing Jea island. Some of the best landscapes in the series, comparable to or better than Pre-Searing Ascalon. I'm still partway through the Trilogy edition and EotN, but I recommend Eye of the North also.

Mar 30, 2011, 07:54 PM // 19:54	#1
Demichelis Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Profession: W/D	So now that I beat Nightfall campaign... What would be the next best thing to do? I was thinking on getting to the Factions area so I can get the Save Yourselves! skill from the Kuzrick/Luxon factions, and not sure from there. Nightfall was the first campaign I beat, so not sure what else to do next. :P

Mar 30, 2011, 09:12 PM // 21:12	#6
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	If you're doing it for skills you should do as you're already saying (going for luxon/kurzik). Also story and environment wise Factions is really great (although a lot of people say it as the worst of the campaigns). EDIT: Apparently it still packs quite a punch (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Afflicted_Soul_Explosion) although I know it was nerfed from what it originally was. I actually did Vizunah Square the other day in HM (think it was Zaishen quest) and I didn't notice anything - ofc it could be because I don't use melee in my group other than minions. Last edited by majoho; Mar 31, 2011 at 01:35 PM // 13:35..

Mar 30, 2011, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#7
Dramatic Exit Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2011	If it helps, my wife and me started with Nightfall and after finishing: 1) went and got any Treasure we'd missed 2) worked through EotN to get the rest of the Heroes, the HoM, and some good skills, but stopped before completing it so War in Kryta didn't kick off 3) are now working through Prophecies I did level up a Ritualist in Factions though to unlock some more skills.

Mar 30, 2011, 08:17 PM // 20:17	#2
inscribed Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006	Take your heroes from Nightfall and use them to beat Prophecies, then head to Eye of the North, and finally the War in Kryta/ GW Beyond content. I thought Factions was the weakest of the campaigns, and didn't really offer much in meta-PVE outside of the skill you mentioned.

Mar 30, 2011, 08:45 PM // 20:45	#3
Aeritath Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2010 Profession: E/	I agree didn't really get anything out of factions and the story was pretty meh. EoTN has a TON of amazing skills (Pain Inverter, Ebon Vanguard skills, etc) and lots more to offer in the way of titles and such, so I would start there if you can, especially if you have a decent amount of heroes to work with after Nightfall.

Mar 30, 2011, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#4
Sir Baddock Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Guild: Endemic Warfare Profession: W/	This is how I grouped the various Guild Wars Titles. PvE - Prophecies (More story driven) Competitive PvE: Nightfall (More driven on various types of missions to keep content feeling fresh). PvP - Factions (Expanded on PvP Elements greatly) Advancement / Expansion on pre-existing elements - Eye of The North.

Mar 30, 2011, 09:05 PM // 21:05	#5
Mr Dinkleberg Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2011 Guild: UndiesPatrol Profession: Me/	I'd go for factions, it has a quick storyline, and offers some great skills (like you mentioned). Also I love to do FA, but maybe that's just me. I played through factions in 5 days of less then casual gameplay. (With disco+mesway+spiritway)

Mar 30, 2011, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#8
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	I love Factions. I've played through it with eight characters so far and loved every minute.

Mar 30, 2011, 11:13 PM // 23:13	#9
inscribed Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006	Sorry but I thought the whole division between Kurzick and Luxon really hampered PvE play and created more annoyances than any real new game play. Also I absolutely hated the areas in Kaineng City. For a game with no z-axis, they really should of avoided the multi-leveled, congested areas that got introduced there. Players ended up aggroing mobs of enemies located on another floor with no nearby route to them, so your only choice was to run by or choose another path. It also made the minimap useless. Its just my opinion, but Prophecies had a much better story, and Eye of the North had the best pure PvE gameplay released by ArenaNet so far.

Mar 31, 2011, 02:05 AM // 02:05	#10
Demichelis Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Profession: W/D	Heh, I went ahead and am going with Factions. I really hate the environment so far, the city and stuff. I just mostly want to get it out of the way so I can get another trophy on hall of monuments (think I got one for beating Nightfall, had a trophy that said Eternal Hero of Elona) and get that PvE skill.

Mar 31, 2011, 02:31 AM // 02:31	#11
Kojima Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Home Guild: En Caligne Veritas [DARK] Profession: R/Rt	Fractions is good actually to start as your second game. It is easy to beat and has lots of skills for you to cap and buy. I think coming from Nightfall, you may find Prophecies a little boring at first until you reach almost end game. Plus, it takes a while to start getting nice skills. However, if you finish Fractions before going into Prophecies, you may find Prophecies a bit too easy. Prophecies has the best story and it is also true that the Kaineng City is pretty confusing the first time a player use it. But once you get the hang of it is ok.

Mar 31, 2011, 02:42 AM // 02:42	#12
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	If you go to Factions bring protective spirit. The Afflicted Soul Explosions pack a punch if you're using AoEs. The Afflicted eles also use Lightning Orb.

Mar 31, 2011, 02:48 AM // 02:48	#13
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	Factions can be completed pretty quickly and on the whole I enjoyed it yes the luxon/kurzic bit became boring after a while and I just wish completing it opened up both sides cities traders etc on that character. I would do factions next if you have any inclination to gain ritualist skills. My preferred order of game completion is currently Nightfall - Eye - Factions - Prophesies. I know people rave over the prophesies storyline but sadly I find it too dated to really enjoy any more. Game has moved on I find less and less reason to start a character there, I think it would spoil the good memories I have of the old days.

Mar 31, 2011, 11:21 AM // 11:21	#15
syronj Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007	When you get the chance, check out the scenery on Shing Jea island. Some of the best landscapes in the series, comparable to or better than Pre-Searing Ascalon. I'm still partway through the Trilogy edition and EotN, but I recommend Eye of the North also.